As we saw it in the previous page
(Sun and OJ 287)
- The orbital period of Jupiter is 11.8 years.
(Exactly 11.862615 years)
- The object X which is looked for is Jupiter.
- The solar cycles and those of OJ 287 are aligned
on the orbital period of Jupiter.
- The Tides provoked by Jupiter
in the Sun could be the cause of this phenomenon.
On the Sun
In January 1966, the French astronomer Michel Trellis
published in the
CRAS some observations on the Sun, concerning tides
generated by planets. In the order of efficiency we have:
- Jupiter, because the most massive.
- Venus, because enough close to the Sun.
- All the others have no significant action. (Too distant
or not rather massive).
These tides are hardly discernible. It explains as a result
of the nature of the environment at the level of the photosphere.
It is an extremely diluted gas subjected to complex turbulences.
Let us look what could take place in the lower layers.
In the convective zone, we are in full
turbulences, thus tides have no possibility of being
In the radiative zone, at least on its
surface, the seismology reveals nothing particular.
On the surface of the core, we could
hope to see by seismology, deformations connected to tides.
but it is not the case, The core appears to us as a sphere.
Inside the core, we see nothing. The
waves are reflected about the surface and cannot penetrate
What would there be in the core which would be
sensitive to tides caused by Jupiter?
- The core is made by a gas of which the temperature is 15
- The pressure, to which this core is subjected, is such
as its density is 137. Therefore on the
Earth, 1 cm3 of the sun core would weigh 137 grams.
- In the center of the Sun, the density would be ≥ 150.
There would be in the center of this
core an "inner core" which, under
the influence of the pressure, would have most surprising
- One cm3 of this seed
would weigh more than 150 grams.
- Because of its rotation, this
inner core would have a shape of an oblate
mixture of neutrons, protons and also charged particles?
- This inner core would
thus behave, at least on its surface, as a
liquid. In its
centre it could be solid. Would it be
Solid Helium ?
- It would be in a
very fast rotation in a perpendicular plan with regard to a
North-south axis. As a result of this rotation
a magnetic field is induced parallel as the
axis of rotation.
- The inner core takes a geometrical
shape of a rotating elongated oblate spheroid.
Symptoms of tides due to Jupiter, they are
rotating waves as an harmonic
relation with the period of Jupiter (2 x
11.8 = 23.6 years). Thus tides are strongly
amplified by these resonances.
(Attention, you should not confuse the own rotation of the
spheroids with the rotation of the resonant waves).
- Because of the differential rotations
between the waves of tides of the solar inner core and
Jupiter, these two waves would be
resynchronized one after the other
with a gap of 11,8 years.
- These resynchronisations has for
- To generate two peaks of amplitude on the wave of
tide. This is apparent in the solar cycles and in those
of OJ 287 by both peaks observed at the
top of every cycle.
- At every resynchronisation, for a
reason which is not still totally clarified, the
magnetic field of the solar inner core is inverted.
The hyper fluidity of the solar inner core could be one
of the causes. We evoke farther the second possible
An oblate spheroid
The Inner Core
A document (opposite), published by the
shows us the distribution and the evolution, during
time, of the visible magnetic fields on the surface of
the Sun. You should not forget that there are also
magnetic fields of surface which interfere with the
solar deep field. It perturb a little the readability of
this document. Let us add that it is necessary to
realize that the roundness and the differential rotation of the sun deforms on the
image the trajectories of magnetic fields.
However hits interpretation, in view of the hypotheses
which we present here, demonstrates that it would be in
fact about a mechanical
tipping up of the solar inner core.
In this image, the positive magnetic fields are yellow
and the negative magnetic fields are blue. We notice
that the tiping up are characterized by unstable
intermediate trails zones which are characteristic of
This shift is shown schematically in
fig. 5. This is not a sinusoidal
signal, but a trapezoidal signal. This is a set of
switches, which generate large electromagnetic signals.
With regard to the plan of the ecliptic, the orbit of
Jupiter has an angle of 1.3 °
and the axis
of rotation of the Sun is tilted by 7.25 ° from the
perpendicular to the plane of the ecliptic.
Thus it would be
possible that this tiping up of the inner core is
connected to these different angular values of rotations
(7.25 ° +/-1.3 °) which lead, during resynchronisations,
a twisting of the inner core explaining these tiping up
and, on the picture, these blue and yellow trails
This image of the NASA is an almost sure proof of the
existence of an inner core in the center of the Sun.
We can notice that the Sun has for peculiarity
to present a certain transparency to magnetic fields.
From this image and those who maybe will follow, it will
be possible to determine the dimensions of the inner
core, and from the intensity of the magnetic field, we
could deduct the electric current in the inner core.
With our big regret, we don't know the positions of
Jupiter with regard to the magnetic fields of this
|Source: B. Lempel
(Source NASA - Pioneer)
It remains to explain the physical phenomenon of
transmission of the signal between the Sun and OJ 287.
Is it a gravitational wave, an electromagnetic wave or possibly
an other thing? We know nothing about it for the moment. However,
if the distance between the Sun and OJ
287 is only 100 ly, things should be facilitated there.
But let us look all together at what we can deduct from
Transmission of the Signal between the Sun and OJ 287:
- A gravitational wave?
generator is the Sun, and it is right by the Earth. They are
ideal conditions for their detection. But until this day we
discovered nothing of such. Thus we have to
eliminate this hypothesis.
- An electromagnetic wave?
of its rotation, the magnetic field of the Sun takes
the shape of a logarithmic spiral with a period of 11.8 years (Parker spiral).
Every new period, the new element of this spiral changes of
polarity with regard to the precedent.
Thus it is a
magnetic wave of big amplitude and its
period is of 11.8 years.
It propagates, in some degrees
near, in the plan of the ecliptic.
This wave could be thus very well the activating
source of OJ 287 which, (we remind you) is in the
constellation Cancer that is in the plan of the ecliptic.
But at present we ignore by what means it makes it.
The Parker spiral transports the particles of the solar wind.
It allows probably the cohesion of the lines of forces
during the transmission of the magnetic wave towards
The Parker spiral has the shape of a double
logarithmic spiral, what implies that its speed of
propagation increase with the distance.
It complicates the calculation of the distance Sun
OJ 287, because if the signal received from
OJ 287 propagates at the speed of light, it is not
similar for the magnetic wave. The only thing which is known
is the duration of the going there and back of the signal,
that is approximately 200 years.
Thus the distance of OJ 287 is lower
than 100 al.
We realized a map of the region of the zodiac where OJ 287
is. To see it in its entirety, it is enough to click the reduced
We can notice that:
- The sun equatorial ascending node is in the Taurus
constellation. Rather close to the Cancer.
The quasar OJ287 is 2°.59 in the North of the
ecliptic and is 3°.33 in the South of the plan of solar
equator. It had been too beautiful that this quasar is just
in the plan of the solar equator!
- By taking into account the slope of the plan of rotation
of the Sun (7,25°) and of the increasing thickness of the
spiral of Parker according to the distance, we realize that
OJ 287 cannot escape the influence of the magnetic field of
The atypical red shift of OJ 287:
- There is at present, at the astrophysicists, no accepted
theory allowing to explain the atypical red shift of
- However a physicist Dr. Jacques Moret-Bailly
proposes, for some years already, a theory which leans on
the quantum theory. (CREIL effect).
We cannot affirm that this theory is the one who will impose
So, we dedicated him a page "New
Culinary Recipe to Make a Quasar" in which we can find a
list of his publications.
The 10/05/2014 a study about the red shifts of
some atypical Quasars, including NGC 7603, was published:
Expanding space, quasars and St. Augustine’s fireworks.
O. I. Chashchina & Z. K. Silagadze - arXiv:1409.1708v1 [gr-qc].
We are very glad that some scientists are finally focusing
on these controversial topics.
A portion of the Zodiac
|Relations with the
wave of Kotov:
There is another coincidence between the Sun,
Jupiter and the "quasar" OJ 287.
It is about the 160 minutes period of Kotov
already evoked in
Wave of Kotov.
It seems that the wave of Kotov applies so very well to the
orbital radius of the giant planets of the solar system and in
particular to Jupiter, but in that particular case, with
approximately a 10 % excess as shows us the
||is the wave length corresponding to the period of Kotov).
||Dimensions in UA
In relation to
With period =
We realize in this way that the orbital periods of the giant
planets in the solar system and in particular that of
11,8 years of Jupiter would be connected to the
wave of Kotov !
We can envisage that it would be gravitational resonances on
which would have locked these planets at the beginning of the
solar system forming. They would not practically have evolved
since, except Jupiter.
We can explains very well the case of Jupiter if we make the
analogy with the system Earth-Moon: the Moon goes away little by
little from the Earth as a result of the side-effects tides and
Jupiter goes away little by little from the sun as a result of
the side-effects tides in the Sun.
What a strange thing that to be able to date with a certain
precision the forming of the solar system thanks to the wave of
It is a thing even stranger that to be able to measure the
energy consumed by the tide effect of Jupiter on the Sun.
This gap of Jupiter is a supplementary proof of this tide effect
on the sun.
The wave of Kotov was also discovered in OJ 287.
It is not strictly speaking a coincidence. Because we discovered
it in numerous objects in the universe, for example stars (Delta Scuti
and RR Lyrae) or quasars. All
these objects are distributed in all the heavens. Thus this
implies a large-scale phenomenon for which we cannot define a
source in particular.
Is it a common property to all the concerned objects?
Would it be a natural cosmological phenomenon as seem to think
Dr. Valery Kotov, Dr. Christian Bizouard and Dr. Francis Sanchez
Sun and Wave of Kotov.
Quasars and Wave of
Only time will tell.
- In our knowledge, the sun inner core is a new phenomenon.
A solid-liquid inner core had never been thinking to consider by
- The propagation of magnetic waves acting at distance on
other astronomical objects is a new phenomenon. It had never
been envisaged previously.
- Is it possible that there are spirals of Parker
associated to some other stars? The answer is
An extraordinary celestial spiral ESA-Hubble.
Surprising Spiral Structure Spotted by ALMA (ESO).
- Can this phenomenon last for a long time? Certainly not.
Simply by the fact of the specific movements of the solar
system and of OJ 287. And perhaps also as a result of the precession
of the axis of rotation of the Sun. But it would be of the
order of 41 billions years, thus in a scale of time such as it is
totally imperceptible. (IMCCE
- Paris Observatory).
- The observations and the assertions of Halton
Arp take a new shape. It is henceforth impossible
to ignore them.
- The proof that a quasar having a cosmological red shift
would really be situated at a galactic distance was provided.
It will not be without consequences in astronomy and in
What's for the future? For example:
Would the massive exoplanets be, as Jupiter, in tide
interactions with a stellar inner core? And what would be the
consequences on the stellar theory of evolution of these systems?
The observation of the magnetic fields of stars and their
evolutions should be rich in discoveries.
learned us the
discovery of a "magnetic
On 10/23/2015 an other
Press release from CNRS, learned us the discovery of high "magnetic
fields" hidden in the heart of stars, with "astérosiesmology".
This discovery was made in a "Red Giant Star".
We are now
entitled to suppose that these stars would have, as the Sun and
as the earth, an inner core. It opens the following prospect :
all the stars would have an inner core.
Some objects with cycles between 10 and 12 years :
||Wave of Kotov
||11,8 years (Wolf + Magnetism)
||11,8 years (Period of révolution)
||11,8 years (Electromagnetic
61 Cygni B
||10,2 years (Coronal
||11,5 years (Period of revolution)
For 61 Cygni B, we have
only four cycles.
For SO 102, we have only a
In these two cases, it is very insufficient to
be able to make a comparison with the solar cycle
New On 08/01/2017,
scientists who use the ESA / NASHO SOHO solar observatory have
found long-sought seismic gravity mechanisms that imply that the
Sun's nucleus rotates four times faster than its surface.
(Source ESA). This seems to confirm that it would indeed be a
seed consisting of hyperdense, superconducting helium. If it was
not, then its speed would be slowed down quickly by the friction
against the hydrogen of the sun.
Test of the periodicity in the quasar OJ 287 -
R.B. Stothersi and A.Sillanpaa
- The Astrophysical Journal, 475 :L13–L15, 1997/01/20
Measuring Black Hole Spin in OJ287 - M. Valtonen,
S.Mikkola, H.J.Lehto, T.Hyvönen, K.Nilsson, D.Merritt,
A.Gopakumar, H.Rampadarath, R.Hudec, M.Basta, R. Saunders
Publications concerning the Sun activity :
All the works quoted below, do not consider, for a very good
reason, the possibility of a physical link with OJ 287.
This can explain, at least partially, the debate between the
astronomers from the initial publication of
Michel Trellis : Marées solaires
d'origine planétaire. C.R. Acad. Sci. Paris t.262 : 17, 24,
31 janvier 1966. Serie B, P. 221 - 224, P. 312 - 315, P. 376
A. Dauvillier - Physique solaire :
interprétation mécanique de l'activité solaire - Ciel et
Terre, vol 93, pp.204-214 (juillet-août 1977).
The interplanetary magnetic field (IMF)
The Sun's magnetic field - NASA (The Parker
The Sun does a Flip (NASA)
The sub-Parker spiral structure of the heliospheric magnetic
Schwadron and D.J. McComas
Publications concerning the CREIL effect as
the possible explanation for the cosmological red shifts of
Effet CREIL - Jacques Moret-Bailly.
||For all who brought us their direct help,