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Solar Activity, Wave of Kotov and Strange Coincidences

Discovery of the Waves of Kotov in the Sun.

In 1974, a periodic infrasonic oscillations, measured by doppler effect, on the surface of the sun (2km, speed 1m/s) , in 160,01 minutes, is discovered by two independent groups:

  1. Severny, Kotov, Tsapp (Astrophysical observatory of Crimea -  KrAO) [1]

  2. Brookes et al. [2] (University of Birmingham) [2]

A little later it is confirmed by two other teams. [3-6]

  1. KrAO 1974 - 1982, with a period of oscillation of 160.0101 ± 0.0016 minutes [7]

  2. Stanford 1977 - 1980 P0 With a period of oscillation of 160.0095 ± 0.0010 minutes. [6]

Valery Kotov
Valery Kotov - Source Valery Kotov (Sept 2008)

Characteristics of the waves of Kotov.

  1. These waves are perfectly periodic and regular: no break of phase was observed over more than thirty years of observations

  2. There are periods when the oscillation becomes blurred for the benefit of it's lobe in 159.956 minutes (modulation in 400 days).

  3. The mode of vibration is badly identified.

  4. The mechanism remains not understood. Let us note here that V. Kotov proposes the influence of gravitational waves to explain this phenomenon.


Solar eruption seen by SOHO

Sun eruptions and Waves of Kotov

  1. In the release of 19 000 sun eruptions from 1947 till 1980, we observe a periodicity:
    P0 of 160.0102 ± 0.0002 minutes (4σ/proba .= 0.01%) [8]

  2. A Periodicity of 160 minutes in X-rays eruptions is discovered by satellite. [9]

  3. From 1975 till 1990 the initial Moments observed by 90 000 sun eruptions are. [10]

    1. 1975 - 1982: P0 = 160.0104 ± 0.0005 minutes
      (3.5σ / pr = 0.05 %).

    2. 1983 -1990 : No observed periodicity.

Wave of Kotov in the Sun and the Stars

Variation of the Luminosity of the Sun and some other stars :

The satellite SOHO probably showed the presence of a period of 160-min and\or 80-min in the luminosity of the sun. [11 - 12]
The most commensurable period of the pulsations of Delta Scuti Stars is : 162 ± 4 min (3.8σ/proba .= 0.02 %). [13]
For the variable RR Lyrae Stars, we find 161,4 ±1,6 min

It would thus seem, that at least in our galaxy, this wave is a rather general phenomenon for stars of various types.

 The multiplicity of observations shows that the wave of 160,01 minutes would not be an artefact

What devil hides you behind all this?
Hypotheses :
 The Little Galactic Gong (LGG)
A very big amplitude Gravitational Wave of 160,01 minutes period could be at the origin of the periodic variations of the diameter of the Sun. We shall call it the Little Galactic Gong LGG, by opposition to the GGG evoked in the previous page dedicated to the sun pulsations.

Joseph Weber

  1. The Sun would thus behave as a Giant Detector of Weber (In other words as a detector of gravitational waves).

  2. The source of this gravitational wave could be in the Galaxy, perhaps in Saggitarius A  (Two black holes in interaction ?)

  3. All the stars and all the planets of our galaxy would be subjected to the influence of these gravitational waves and could be used with the aim of their detection.

  4. For all stars of the Milky Way, the wavelength of the LGG is the same, only their relative phases differ, what seems linked to the respective distances of these stars with regard to the source of the LGG. This peculiarity should eventually allow to determine the source of the LGG.

  5. Curiously, we dont observe red or blue shift associated to the LGG.

Conclusion :
So, would it exists a gravitational coupling wave  between a source situated in the galaxy and all the stars of the galaxy? . This property would then be generalized to all galaxies.

We would have had thus always a huge gravitational waves detector under the nose, and we would never have noticed it !!!

Objections :
  1. The theory asserts that the period of the gravitational waves would be situated rather around 1ms ( 1000 Hz), and certainly not around 160,01 minutes !

  2. How the gravitational waves could act and be detected on a very diluted gas mass, especially at the level of the photosphere ?

  3. In our knowledge we never discovered waves of Kotov in the galactic centre. Thus Saggitarius A is not the source of this phenomenon.

  4. Nobody, whatever is the used instrument, has never discovered directly the slightest gravitational wave.

Answers :

It is to forget, a little bit fast,

  1. That the theory of interactive black holes is far from being finished.

  2. That these last ones, according to the theory, can be low frequencies modulated according to very particular modes which look like a little those whom the radioelectricians call with acronyms "AM" and "BLU".

  3. And in that case, it is this modulation which would be detected by the sun. The physics of this detection remains to discover.

  4. But it is necessary to admit that we do not know the source of the wave of Kotov.


Nothing says to us that the gravitational waves are active at the level of the photosphere. They would be active only in the central regions of the sun, where the density of matter is sufficient, very probably in the core. And thus it would be the variations of the diameter of the core, that would lead the solar activity. Let us note that it result that the observations are very more difficult.
We can add that considering the dimension of the core of the sun face to face of the LGG, the "detector so constituted" is totally aperiodic. He cannot enter in resonance. (And it would be true for all the stars).
On the other hand a simple calculation shows that stars having a core of which the diameter would be of the order of 1/4 of the wavelength of Kotov would may enter in resonance. Let us note that if a star resound with the LGG, it would be unstable and could explode. (Echo at l/4 of the fundamental or possibly on an harmonic). It is the case of the Red Giants Stars such as Betelgeuse or KY-Cy6 that are very near the echo. (1,2 for the first one and 0,8 for second one)
It implies, that at least in our galaxy, certain dimensions of stars cores are not possible. This would not be linked directly to the mass of the star, but to the diameter of the core of the star face to face of the LGG.

Last News :
Has SOHO ended a 30-year quest for solar ripples?
It's under this title that the ESA announces the detection of a wave said "gravity wave" stemming from the sun core. This wave has a period of 24 minutes. At first sight this period seems to have no link with the 160 minutes Kotov wave.
But if we make the ratio beetwen them :

Clearly  it is the report of two integers and physically it seems to imply an harmonic relation between these two waves.
This relation seems to correspond to a tenth of a Perfect Fifth, what has nothing surprising if we admit that the Sun behaves as a drum with specific gravito-acoustics resonances modes. (French)
But these acoustics resonances modes, whatever they are, put in evidence only the structure and the "internal mechanics" of the Sun. They absolutely don't inform us about the kind of the "drumsticks" which are banging on the "Drum-sun".
We can only make hypotheses.
Thus we accept gladly those which are proposed concerning the 24 minutes "g waves".
On the other hand we do not see in what the "Kotov wave "would be a "g wave". It seems to us that it is necessary to look somewhere else, accordingly as this wave shows itself in a set of different objects distributed on the whole of the galaxy, even on the universe.
(See next page)
modes sphériques  
Mario Cosentino
Dr. Mario Cosentino 
On May 24th, 2011, Dr. Mario Cosentino informed us that the relation R, above, could also be spelt under the shape:

dimension fractale

Which is the fractal dimension of the Menger-Sierpinsky sponge. But the value D = 2,7268 is also the temperature of the CMBR (# 2,726 K).
What physical relation could link together the fractal dimension D of the Menger-Sierpinsky sponge with:

  1. The 160 minutes wave of Kotov.

  2. The 24 minutes Sun period.

  3. And the 2.726 CMBR temperature.

Dr. Mario Cosentino proposes the hypothesis that the link would to be looked for in a property of the quantum vacuum.

Menger-Sierpinsky Sponge
Eponge de Menger-Spierpinsky après 4 itérations 
Cosmic microwave background radiation (CMBR)
Fond Cosmologique
But in the field of the physics, there is a limit in the quantum mechanical nonlocality, it is the Upper Bound of Tsirelson which the calculated value is : 

Limite supérieure calculée de la borne de Tsirelson.

Experimentally this bound is 2,7252. And this value is very close to the fractale dimension D, of the Menger-Sierpinsky sponge and of the temperature of the CMBR!

Indeed it seems that we are in the presence of a property of the quantum vacuum.

For the CMBR temperature he proposes the opposite relation, in which T is the temperature of the CMBR, D the fractal dimension of the Menger-Sierpinsky sponge (2,7268).
The fractional term, in red, is thermal because it contains the Boltzmann Constant Kb. And if we calculate this term we obtain 1 Kelvin.

Let us note that in this equation there are no free parameters.



Why SOHO (with the instrument GOLF) did not discover the "Kotov wave"?
By comparing the results obtained by Kotov (Fig. 1), with those obtained by SOHO (Fig. 2), we easily realize that the investigated wavebands are not the same. Furthermore they don't even recover at least partially. Is it provoked by the instrument GOLF itself, or still by the digital processing (Filterings and\or signal compression) made a posteriori on the raw data to eliminate the noise? Whatever are the reasons, GOLF was not able to find the "Kotov wave". But it is normal, it was not the searched aim. It was wanted to find something specific which was expected by the theory, thus nothing else. And we did not look farther.
Another possible reason is bound to a specificity of the "Kotov waves": Sometimes the oscillation becomes blurred for the benefit of it's lobe (Modulation for 400 days). GOLF would have made its measures during a blarred period of the "Kotov wave".

Is it possible to extend or modify the frequencies band detectable by GOLF?
We cannot answer this question. Only the designers of the instrument and digital processing softwares could make it. Moreover you should not forget that to widen the band has for inconvenience to reduce the ratio "Signal / Noise".
You can't have your cake and eat it.
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  2. Severny A.B. et al.: 1976. Nat. V. 259. P. 87.

  3. Scherrer P.H. et al.: 1979. Nat. V. 277. P. 635.

  4. Grec G. et al.: 1980. Nat. V. 288. P. 541.

  5. Scherrer P.H. et al.: 1980. ApJ. V. 237. P. L97.

  6. Scherrer P.H., Wilcox J.M.: 1983. Sol. Phys. V. 82. P. 37.

  7. Kotov V.A. et al.: 1997. Sol. Phys. V. 176. P. 45.

  8. Kotov V.A., Tsap T.T.: 1990. Sol. Phys. V. 128. P. 269.

  9. Bai T.: 2003. Sol. Phys. V. 215. P. 327.

  10. Kotov V.A., Scherrer P.H.: 1992. Not published.

  11. Finsterle W., Frohlich C.: 1998. World Radiation Center.
    Annual Rep. 1997. Davos: PMOD/WRC. P. 9.

  12. Kotov V.A. et al. , Kinematica I fiz. Nebes. Tel. V. 16

  13. Kotov S.V, Kotov V.A., 1997, Astron. Nachr. 318,

  14. Ch. Bizouard - "Discussion sur les oscillations cosmiques, les nombres sans dimension et les périodicités en microphysique et cosmologie" - 27 Fev 2004 - Collège de France.

  15. Supermassive binary black hole system in the quasar 3C 345.pdf

  16. SOHO a-t-il réussi à trouver le pouls du Soleil ?

  17. Découverte des modes d'oscillations internes du Soleil (3 Mai 2007)

  18. Publications liées à l'instrument Golf (SOHO)

  19. GOLF-NG : Principe de fonctionnement

  20. Science effectuée avec GOLF

  21. La sismologie : Qu'est-ce que c'est ? A quoi cela sert-il ?

  22. D'une vision microscopique à une vision macroscopique du Soleil

  23. Objectifs scientifiques de GOLF-NG

  24. Héliosismologie

  25. Les mesures sismiques solaires

  26. The quest for the solar g modes


We thank Dr. Christian Bizouard (Paris Observatory) and Dr. Francis Sanchez who supplied us all the documentation used for the achievement of this page.
We also thank Dr. Cosentino who brought us unexpected additional informations.
The reader will notice, that in this stage, and contrary to the quoted persons, we pull, from Dr. Valery Kotov's observations, no conclusion of cosmological order. The only hypotheses which we formulate here stay, in some details near, within the framework of the classic theories.


Date of creation : 05/15/2005
Last Release: 05/30/13

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